- Thread starter CobraSGT
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You are not exactly wrong. I'd say he's got about ~1500 patrons who stay with him, no matter what (well, atleast for now). The remaining ~500 he gains over the span of a month are either those who subscribe for 1 month to get the latest update and leave, or new patrons who notice how the game's progress is crawling, leaving after a couple months at most. But he's not gaining more support for quite a while now, for very good reasons I might add. In fact, the average patron tier went down the past 12 months.
But here's the thing...The number of people who dislike the slow development exceed the number of happy fellas by far. He could easily have 10k+ patrons by now, but the slow development (and most likely his persona) is shooting him in the foot. But L&P seems to be fine with that, and it's his project.
That said, you know very well that there's more than 3 people here being aware of- and addressing the slow development. It's likely the single biggest point L&P is known for.
Is L&P really increasing his membership numbers or are they staying more or less the same?
- Jul 20, 2019
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It's still going, but Bennett gave the Sophia 2 weeks to decide on his ultimatum and that was on PD10. So she doesn't need to give an answer until PD24, which might be as long as 20 years away.
With Bennett not even being in the Favorite Character poll, we know that he's not going to have any significant scenes in the foreseeable future.
Sophia even has an out by going to the school board, so the storyline isn't really going anywhere anyway. The Twist being removed I think is showing that the appetite for blackmail amongst supporters might not be that high
Do he need to increase the membership numbers? Also if he went lets say 300 Renders for 3 scenes. Do you think he would lose subscribers ? He plays it save but would I risk a healthy income?
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Seems the last major jump in patron numbers was about this time last year. Since then numbers appear to be more or less the same, just the usual sawtooth pattern.
What I find curious is that they're reporting that earnings per patron is decreasing, so it seems what patrons L&P does have are dropping to lower tiers.
- Dec 24, 2022
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ERRATA CORRIGE
Sorry guys I went too fast on that one.
There is no bug, you actually stop the relationship if Sophia doesn't give a kiss to Sam (cheek or mouth, it doesn't matter). I must have been tired and I didn't check the code again:
Python:
menu day20_Sophia_decides_how_to_thank_Sam:
"Thank him":
scene day20_At_Sams_place 457
s "Thanks, Sam. But... just carrying it out like that would be a bit inconvenient, as you can imagine."
s "Plus. I really don't know if it would be appropriate to take it home with me. After all, this is basically evidence."
scene black with fade
"Sam was a little bit disappointed but still understood Sophia's decision. And so they went down to Amber in the kitchen."
# here there is jump so day20_Sophia_continues_romance_with_Sam remains False
jump day20_Sophia_Sam_in_kitchen_with_Amber
"Thank him with a kiss on the cheek":
scene day20_At_Sams_place 454 with Dissolve(0.35)
"Thank him with a kiss on his mouth":
"Sam didn't quite expect that kind of gesture and was more than pleased about it."
st "Dammit, I came here to end all this nonsense and now I'm voluntarily kissing him on the mouth. All this after we almost got caught twice!"
st "What's wrong with me? Why does Sam have to be so amazing?!"
$ day20_Sophia_continues_romance_with_Sam = TrueBishop Robert will find the appropriate penance for my recidive sinful soul.
Thanks, for the recheche.
Sam probably won't get another chance at my game, poor Sam.
Sophia as a mental bimbo in love, who uncritically accepts everything from Sam but questions her relationship with her husband.
I will probably only watch the future Sam events in the gallery.
Why does L&P set these decision points so idiotically?
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It does make me curious and somewhat cautious about what's going to happen on the Ellie and Patricia routes, since so far Sophia having sex with Liam after fixing the bathroom lock and the jacuzzi on PD11 is the first chance at sex possible on the route.
That Liam still gets to wear the pants in the relationship is one of the reasons I think the Ellie and Patricia route might not necessarily have a bad marriage-breaking ending.
- Oct 20, 2022
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I have no interest in Dylan so I would hate for Aiden to be injected into scenes.
Just the route of Elli irritates me a little, so I can hardly speculate how it should continue. There is still too much open at the moment. Dylan, Sophia, Julia, Logan are all still options.
And the variable "Elli_Bitch" (or something like that) seems to show another way.
The points of reprimand that L&P has built in so far are pure either/or decisions. So you can't expect smooth transitions but painful decisions for the player.
Why I as a player have collected sympathy points for the individual characters at all, if they do not play a role in the end, I do not understand.
If I call someone a "milker" it means nothing else to me than that I call him a cheater. He cheats the people who support him financially and expect something in return. A performance that he does not provide or not in sufficient measure. Actually steals the people around the achievement entitled to them.Your comment doesn't make much sense, because the participation options on Patreon are mostly linked to an active subscription. People who are disappointed with L&P will certainly not pay money just to have the privilege of doing this in his forum.
Anyway, Why don't you just leave it up to the mods of this forum to decide what's okay to talk about here? If people have fun expressing their disappointment about AWAM development speed here, I see no issue at all. When L&P is ready to seek honest feedback, he can always stop by here.
Now we are here on a pirate site, and many who call L&P a milker proudly call themselves pirates. They have never (and may never) support the developer.
If we free the term pirate from the romantic notions of noble freedom fighters created by Hollywood movies, then pirates were and are thieves, murderers, and at best poor bastards.
So if a thief tells a cheater his honest opinion then he is allowed to do so, there is no rule in this forum that forbids it, and he may well be right!
But he must then also expect that his position is questioned or rejected.
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Do you have an interest in Aiden but not Dylan?
Not really. We know that there are going to be three branches of the Ellie route. Logan and Jules are already set up, and Sam looks to be the third option, since in the Ellie route (if you're also playing the Sam route) Sophia encourages her to think about dating him instead of Logan. And now in the Sam route, he's doing Ellie favours like rescuing her from Logan stranding her from the beach.
Dylan isn't an option in the Ellie route. From what I've seen in the bonus storyline, playing that doesn't require you to play the Ellie route at all.
In terms of relationship points though, I agree. The latest events seem to rely much more on event flags, like whether or not Sophia kissed Sam. It also appears possible to set Dylan up with Marie with 0 Dylan points. Maybe even negative.
- Oct 20, 2022
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No I hate blackmailers even more. Im only interested in lesbian content and seeing that the upcoming events are all focused on Dylan is painful.
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I thought so, but didn't want to presume. My only point about Aiden being in scenes in the boarding school route is storywise it makes sense if he is as powerful as he claims. That so far he isn't reinforces the argument that he's just a school bully.
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Once I became confident that Dylan wasn’t watching through the window, I pretty much forgot about it – until Patricia strutted into my brain. I’d really like to think that L&P worries about tightening up the development as much as most of us do, and there were a number of renders and captions just in this Sam event concerning the fact that Sam’s room could be seen from Sophia’s house. I hope he isn’t just yanking everybody’s chain and he does in fact have a reason for putting this into the story. There are a number of these little moments where one wonders if there is a purpose for it somewhere down the line, or if it is just a distraction for no reason. It's also a downside to releasing part of the story before the rest of it is complete - it's hard to go back and edit out unnecessary things if the story changes. It’s clear that Sophia not only has an exhibitionist fetish but a danger fetish – was all of this just a way to heat up Sophia?
As to the how – first off, does Dylan being downstairs after Sophia goes up and changes need to be on the Boarding School route, or can he just be coming home from school on a non-Boarding School route? Regardless – just for one quick simple example – Patricia is at the door. “Hi, Dylan, is your mom home? She borrowed one of my blouses and I need to wear it tonight. I know what it looks like, I’ll just go up to her closet and find it.” I’m sure there are many possible scenarios for anybody to be in the house and looking out the window.
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Yeah it would make story sense for him to actually be shown as a bigger threat I personally dislike the content. Now you've got me wondering why he doesn't just force himself on Sophia since we see how he treats his own girlfriend.
A possible scene I can think of is that he attacks Dylan to make good on his threat but he injures him enough that Dylan events no longer trigger and Aiden actually has to go to jail because cameras catch him being the aggressor or something like that.